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		<title>by: lambrtz</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-768</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;misiii…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Mangga pinarak Mbak... :)
(mari masuk Mbak)

&lt;blockquote&gt;if i may put my two cents in,&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You can give me USD 100 millions if you want :mrgreen:

&lt;blockquote&gt;i happen to have 2 passports&lt;/blockquote&gt;
:shock:
I didn't know that this can happen before!
Thank you for sharing. :D

&lt;blockquote&gt;hey when you get that scandinavian passport let me know.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It was just a sudden plan when I was *way* too disappointed with Indonesia, but now I don't intend to have another passport.
However, if someday I acquire it (or any other citizenships) I will let you know. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>misiii…</p></blockquote>
	<p>Mangga pinarak Mbak&#8230; <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
(mari masuk Mbak)</p>
	<blockquote><p>if i may put my two cents in,</p></blockquote>
	<p>You can give me USD 100 millions if you want  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<blockquote><p>i happen to have 2 passports</p></blockquote>
	<p> <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I didn&#8217;t know that this can happen before!<br />
Thank you for sharing. <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<blockquote><p>hey when you get that scandinavian passport let me know.</p></blockquote>
	<p>It was just a sudden plan when I was *way* too disappointed with Indonesia, but now I don&#8217;t intend to have another passport.<br />
However, if someday I acquire it (or any other citizenships) I will let you know. <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Irene</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-767</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-767</guid>
					<description>misiii...

if i may put my two cents in,
for me it's about convenience.

i happen to have 2 passports. i have a u.s. citizenship and an indo citizenship. even though from an indonesian legal point, salah satu kewarganegaraan harus ditanggalkan. but you know, you can always screw the system. the secret is (and i found out the hard way) always extend your indonesian passport in indonesia. why? well...the system is more...&quot;flexible&quot;?  or if you're really desperate you could report to the closest embassy that you lost it. 

the nice thing about having 2 passports is that it makes traveling easier. like you mentioned. i dont get too many questions at immigration. which is nice. 
another thing is that in the US, i'm eligible for student/federal loans. which is convenient when you don't have money and you're stats are average or below average. but then again its sort of like selling your soul to satan (you end up living in debt and having to pay it back for a thousand years). 

hey when you get that scandinavian passport let me know. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>misiii&#8230;</p>
	<p>if i may put my two cents in,<br />
for me it&#8217;s about convenience.</p>
	<p>i happen to have 2 passports. i have a u.s. citizenship and an indo citizenship. even though from an indonesian legal point, salah satu kewarganegaraan harus ditanggalkan. but you know, you can always screw the system. the secret is (and i found out the hard way) always extend your indonesian passport in indonesia. why? well&#8230;the system is more&#8230;&#8221;flexible&#8221;?  or if you&#8217;re really desperate you could report to the closest embassy that you lost it. </p>
	<p>the nice thing about having 2 passports is that it makes traveling easier. like you mentioned. i dont get too many questions at immigration. which is nice.<br />
another thing is that in the US, i&#8217;m eligible for student/federal loans. which is convenient when you don&#8217;t have money and you&#8217;re stats are average or below average. but then again its sort of like selling your soul to satan (you end up living in debt and having to pay it back for a thousand years). </p>
	<p>hey when you get that scandinavian passport let me know.
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		<title>by: lambrtz</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-756</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-756</guid>
					<description>Haha...:mrgreen:
Now that you mention it, I realise that it is not easy too to convert citizenship :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Haha&#8230; <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Now that you mention it, I realise that it is not easy too to convert citizenship <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: frozen</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-755</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-755</guid>
					<description>whoaa... really, i was carried away with the way of your post :mrgreen:
change the citizenship..., mmm... my dream :razz:
unfortunately, being hard up (the classic problem, huh!), change citizenship = blue rose for me, at least for now :lol: </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>whoaa&#8230; really, i was carried away with the way of your post  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
change the citizenship&#8230;, mmm&#8230; my dream  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
unfortunately, being hard up (the classic problem, huh!), change citizenship = blue rose for me, at least for now  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: lambrtz</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-743</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Then just convert to Israeli :mrgreen:

&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW, why dont you change citizenship into Singaporean? AFAIK you will get military conscription (national service) as a bonus!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
*lempar 10 gitar bas*

Nah, as I said above, unless I can see better chance to achieve my goal (just like Anggun), I don't want to change my citizenship. It's tiresome 
-_-

BTW, based on the Singaporean law, if I convert into Singaporean, I won't need to take NS, but my descendants will have to. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Then just convert to Israeli  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<blockquote><p>BTW, why dont you change citizenship into Singaporean? AFAIK you will get military conscription (national service) as a bonus!</p></blockquote>
	<p>*lempar 10 gitar bas*</p>
	<p>Nah, as I said above, unless I can see better chance to achieve my goal (just like Anggun), I don&#8217;t want to change my citizenship. It&#8217;s tiresome<br />
-_-</p>
	<p>BTW, based on the Singaporean law, if I convert into Singaporean, I won&#8217;t need to take NS, but my descendants will have to. <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: jensen99</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-741</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-741</guid>
					<description>well, as a zionist, being a citizen of a nation which doesn't even acknowledge Israel, I guess you already knows where I stands for this matter. :mrgreen:
Think that I want to contribute to humanity by destroying Iran, or Hamas (or FPI), my citizenship doesn't suit me well. :lol:

But... I have many objections with anyone changing his/her sexual orientation, gender &amp;amp; species! LOLOLOL

BTW, why dont you change citizenship into Singaporean? AFAIK you will get military conscription (national service) as a bonus! Isn't it great? :P

*dilempar gitar bas*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>well, as a zionist, being a citizen of a nation which doesn&#8217;t even acknowledge Israel, I guess you already knows where I stands for this matter.  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Think that I want to contribute to humanity by destroying Iran, or Hamas (or FPI), my citizenship doesn&#8217;t suit me well.  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>But&#8230; I have many objections with anyone changing his/her sexual orientation, gender &amp; species! LOLOLOL</p>
	<p>BTW, why dont you change citizenship into Singaporean? AFAIK you will get military conscription (national service) as a bonus! Isn&#8217;t it great? <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>*dilempar gitar bas*
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		<title>by: lambrtz</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-728</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-728</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;inggris lagi.. :roll:&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Lagi mood Inggris sih :mrgreen:

&lt;blockquote&gt;biarlah saya yang jawab pke bhs indon doang&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Boeng Ardianto djoega memberi respon memakai Bahasa &lt;strike&gt;Melajoe&lt;/strike&gt; Indon kok :P

Well di sini saya ga lagi mencuci otak para pembaca buat ganti kewarganegaraan sih, tapi cuma membahas temen saya yang lagi ngadepin dilema ini, terus nulis +/- ganti kewarganegaraan :)

Kalau mau pindah silakan aja :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>inggris lagi..  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
	<p>Lagi mood Inggris sih  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<blockquote><p>biarlah saya yang jawab pke bhs indon doang</p></blockquote>
	<p>Boeng Ardianto djoega memberi respon memakai Bahasa <strike>Melajoe</strike> Indon kok <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Well di sini saya ga lagi mencuci otak para pembaca buat ganti kewarganegaraan sih, tapi cuma membahas temen saya yang lagi ngadepin dilema ini, terus nulis +/- ganti kewarganegaraan <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Kalau mau pindah silakan aja  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: emina</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-727</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>inggris lagi.. :roll:

biarlah saya yang jawab pke bhs indon doang 
btw, itu youtube nya di sini ga lncar, maklum koneksi pas-pasan. jadinya putus nyambung dan lamaaaaa bgt
klo dari judulnya sih, sy pengen coba pindah kewarganegaraan jadi jepang atau palestina ^^
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>inggris lagi..  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>biarlah saya yang jawab pke bhs indon doang<br />
btw, itu youtube nya di sini ga lncar, maklum koneksi pas-pasan. jadinya putus nyambung dan lamaaaaa bgt<br />
klo dari judulnya sih, sy pengen coba pindah kewarganegaraan jadi jepang atau palestina ^^
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		<title>by: lambrtz</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-726</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;*now i sounds like a weirdo, am I?*
*dan sok suci juga sekalian, mungkin* :cool:&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(Ah Google Chrome sijalan, ga bisa ngopi smiley kaya Firefox)
It depends. If &quot;weirdo&quot; means someone whose attitude is not like what the majority of the people's, then you are weirdo :P
But from my idealistic POV, no you are not. If I may say, Russian people commonly refer to this as &quot;&lt;i&gt;kemajon&lt;/i&gt;&quot;, &quot;terlalu maju&quot; in Bahasa Indonesia.

Being &quot;suci&quot; and &quot;sok suci&quot; is also different. &lt;strike&gt;Suci itu penyanyi dangdut&lt;/strike&gt;  
A &quot;sok suci&quot; person is a hypocrite. What s/he does is different from what s/he speaks. You are not like that, aren't you? :D

I can only say.
It takes time.
And effort.

(4-3-2, bagus ya susunannya :P :mrgreen: )

It seems like ignorance is a fixed attribute of Indonesian people,  no? :?
Nevertheless, at least, when you have a kid, you can teach her/him not to litter ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>*now i sounds like a weirdo, am I?*<br />
*dan sok suci juga sekalian, mungkin*  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
	<p>(Ah Google Chrome sijalan, ga bisa ngopi smiley kaya Firefox)<br />
It depends. If &#8220;weirdo&#8221; means someone whose attitude is not like what the majority of the people&#8217;s, then you are weirdo <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
But from my idealistic POV, no you are not. If I may say, Russian people commonly refer to this as &#8220;<i>kemajon</i>&#8220;, &#8220;terlalu maju&#8221; in Bahasa Indonesia.</p>
	<p>Being &#8220;suci&#8221; and &#8220;sok suci&#8221; is also different. <strike>Suci itu penyanyi dangdut</strike><br />
A &#8220;sok suci&#8221; person is a hypocrite. What s/he does is different from what s/he speaks. You are not like that, aren&#8217;t you? <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>I can only say.<br />
It takes time.<br />
And effort.</p>
	<p>(4-3-2, bagus ya susunannya <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
	<p>It seems like ignorance is a fixed attribute of Indonesian people,  no? <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Nevertheless, at least, when you have a kid, you can teach her/him not to litter <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: grace</title>
		<link>http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/2008/12/19/change-your-citizenship-wanna-try/#comment-725</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW, you can try to place a small garbage bin inside your car, and see whether your father will reduce his bad habit. My parents do that, and it works well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
....i did.
My father stop the habit, but then my lil bro start to do that again. making excuses like &quot;cant find the trash bin (I usually use plastic bag)&quot; or &quot;its just a small piece of tissue, dear sista&quot;
and I had it enough when i no longer be able to control those ppl whose I dont have power toward them. Those people are kept littering everywhere as if its not a crime to do that. hell, yeah, it is!
*now i sounds like a weirdo, am I?*
*dan sok suci juga sekalian, mungkin* :cool:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>BTW, you can try to place a small garbage bin inside your car, and see whether your father will reduce his bad habit. My parents do that, and it works well.</p></blockquote>
	<p>&#8230;.i did.<br />
My father stop the habit, but then my lil bro start to do that again. making excuses like &#8220;cant find the trash bin (I usually use plastic bag)&#8221; or &#8220;its just a small piece of tissue, dear sista&#8221;<br />
and I had it enough when i no longer be able to control those ppl whose I dont have power toward them. Those people are kept littering everywhere as if its not a crime to do that. hell, yeah, it is!<br />
*now i sounds like a weirdo, am I?*<br />
*dan sok suci juga sekalian, mungkin*  <img src='http://lambrtz.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' />
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